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Kanji “New” Is Starting To Roll Out

(Not sure what that picture on the right means, but felt it was appropriate… somehow).

I’ve always been a big believe of putting things out there as early as possible so that early feedback / fixes can happen. So, that’s pretty much what I’m doing here. I have the first 5-ish new kanji sections done and put up on TextFugu (it’s under “Kanji New” in the menu bar) and will be adding to it as the rest of the sections are complete (some of it only needs audio, some of it needs more). I just wanted for people to get an idea what the new Kanji Section will look like and how it will flow. I really hope you like it! I’m pretty nervous about it, it’s very different from before (and I know that people tend to be naturally resistant to change!).

Anyways, here’s what just went down with Kanji “New” and Kanji “Old.”

Kanji “New” & Kanji “Old”

Since Kanji “New” isn’t completed yet, I’ve put all the old (soon to be replaced) kanji chapters in one menu item. This means that if you were using / working on anything from the “old” kanji section, you can still access it for a while longer before it gets phased out. Although the “old” and “new” should go fairly well together (despite being a lot different) I’m hoping this will ease the transition pretty nicely. One last quick note – if you want to access “Kanji Old” you’ll need to be logged in to see it.

Adding Anki

I’m going to also take this opportunity to add Anki decks to the kanji section. In fact, that’s the only option (right now) for the new kanji chapters up there (because, as many of you knew, Smart.fm didn’t play nice with the Radicals images), though I’ll be porting them over to Smart.fm too so you can use whichever one you like best. I know a lot of you are Anki fans, and I’ve been getting into Anki a bit too lately.

Each Kanji Has Its Own Page

One of the really big differences is that each kanji has its own page and “narrative.” I’ll let you go in and read some of it to see how the “narrative” works (basically, the idea is that if you just go through and read everything on the page, you’ll be able to learn a lot without trying too hard), but I did want to say something really quickly about the 1-page-1-kanji idea.

One of the really important things about staying self-motivated is achieving a lot of small victories. The more small victories you can achieve, the more they’ll snowball and the more you’ll want to study Japanese. By putting one kanji on one page, I think I’m giving you more opportunities to have these little victories, which means you’ll stay more motivated to study kanji. When I had them all on one page, I think that was a bit daunting (plus, I couldn’t add all the information I wanted to each kanji). I’m hoping this change will actually help you learn more effectively whether you realize it or not! :)

Radicals Then Kanji, Then Radicals, Then Kanji…

Another big change is the ordering of the kanji and radicals chapters. You’ll notice that there is a radicals chapter before every kanji chapter instead of the “learn all the radicals before you learn any kanji” approach I was previously taking. This new approach makes a lot more sense, I think, and will get you learning kanji a lot sooner.

And A Bunch Of Other Small Changes…

A whole bunch of other things changed as well, but whatever they are they’re so small I’ve forgotten what they are. Things like the addition of audio right on the page (I wanted to make it easier to practice with audio… i.e. I didn’t want you to have to jump to Smart.fm to practice the audio on a word, plus some of those recordings they used were kinda… weird), more quotes, modified introductions, more images, and more videos (you know, to help you rest your brain between things) are just some of the many little changes that happened and are still happening.

So, as I mentioned before, this still feels like a slightly early version to me, so feedback is especially awesome right now, while things are a little more malleable. I do need to catch up on a lot of bounties, as well, but feel free to submit any small errors, etc., you find via the bounty system and I’ll try to be on these ones more quickly especially if they have to do with the kanji section!

Thank you all for all the feedback leading up to this point, too! A lot of the changes were made based off of your comments, e-mails, and forum posts in various places :) It really helps a lot!

Cheers!

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  • http://twitter.com/Artemisth David Laplante

    I really like your ideas. The radicals – kanji – radicals is really a good change, because we'll be able to see which kanji uses the radicals we've just learned (and that is motivating). I have to admit that when I first saw that I had to learn all the radicals before touching kanjis, I felt a little bit depressed, but now, I'm excited to start.
    Thanks!

  • http://cnandbolts.wordpress.com/ Crowbeak

    Typo alert! First bullet point under “Focus is on Reading, Not Writing” on page http://www.textfugu.com/kanji/kanji-intro/.

    “That means focusing on the ability to *write* is becoming more and more important, while the ability to write is becoming more and more unnecessary.”

    The asterisked “write” should be “read”, methinks.

  • http://www.tofugu.com koichi

    hehe, that's what happens when I put something up without proof reading.
    Thank you! I suppose proof reading (and hopefully going through bounties) is
    going to have to happen tomorrow.

    Thanks man!

  • http://www.tofugu.com koichi

    I'm glad the change is helping with that! That's one of the things I was shooting for, so it's really great to hear. Thank you!

  • drayomi

    I just went through the first 7 Kanji in the New section, and I am really impressed. The new layout is fantastic! Focusing on one Kanji at a time, rather than all of the 1st stroke and 2nd stroke Kanji at once, is much better. Focusing on a kanji, and all its parts in detail, feels more satisfying, and less daunting. In the old layout I would: look at the Kanji, the meaning, and the reading, skim the rest, and then jump to the next Kanji. One page of Kanji just made me want to get through all the Kanji as fast as possible; One page per Kanji forces me to take my time and really get to know and understand the Kanji.

    You were right when you said that a lot of little victories is much more motivating than one big victory. Keep up the good work Koichi!

    I am looking forward to more “New” Kanji pages! :)

  • http://www.tofugu.com koichi

    Awesome! I'm really happy it's working for you too! :)

  • Crabhooves

    I'm loving the new Kanji section. Worked my way through the 1 and 2 stroke radicals and Kanji and am now eagerly awaiting more. I look forward to seeing the kanji ported to smart.fm, even if the radicals can't be. Anki and I aren't the best of friends. Excellent work Koichi!

  • http://twitter.com/yukisaboten Krystal Burrows

    I love this new approach. I was honestly starting to feel a bit overwhelmed with the “old” method and I was stuck for a while. But I feel I could go a lot further now. My only issue: you changed the “names” of the radicals. It's not a MAJOR issue mind you (I'll just end up knowing both versions), but because I learned it first, I see a “z-hook” before i see a “nose” for example.

  • Jakku

    I'm liking the new Kanji section very much (Especially since you're including Anki =D). Though I must say, I can't help but think about what this method will be like once you start reaching large numbers on Kanji. How do you plan to keep it working effectively once it starts reaching the hundreds and thousands? (If you plan on going through the whole joyo kanji)

  • http://www.tofugu.com koichi

    This might be part theory part experience part research, but it should continue to scale up even as there are more kanji (and even as the kanji gets more complicated). The reason is because we're building on previous knowledge (and long term memories), which means you're only learning a tiny little bit every new kanji you do (rather than learning a whole kanji). Each kanji should be 90% prior knowledge and then 10% new, which means you shouldn't feel like you're learning all that much more each time (but still learning a lot, regardless). Anyways, that's what the memory / psych books & people have been telling me. I'm looking forward to seeing what it's like when things are more complicated, though! :)

  • http://www.tofugu.com koichi

    haha! Indeed, the famous Z-hook. You'll be fine knowing both, I think. In fact, you should be able to learn both without creating conflicting memories, I think, if I did everything right, anyways. I tried to build the kanji section using good memory science, so in theory, you should be able to associate both of those things and remember the one you want at will!

    Not too many radical names have/will change though, I promise! Just a few that were really awkward… though the Z-hook seems to have worked well for you :S

  • http://www.tofugu.com koichi

    I agree! Will be getting things up on Smart.fm soon!

  • http://twitter.com/misutajakku Jack Odell

    Ahh, that makes sense. Thanks for the reply! =D

  • http://twitter.com/HadrielDM Dino

    I wonder, are there only 1-2 stroke radicals/kanji lessons up so far, or are the other ones visible only to subscribers?
    I'm asking because I like this approach a bit better than Heisig's since it also gives you the readings, but I'm not ready to subscribe until it's at least nearing completion.

    However, great work so far, loved the free stuff!

  • http://twitter.com/misutajakku Jack Odell

    Unless I'm missing something, 1-2 strokes are only up right now. = )

  • http://twitter.com/HadrielDM Dino

    Dayam! :P
    Guess I'll have to wait till the rest gets done… :)

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