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無視 as a noun?

MisterM2402 [Michael] — Mon, 30 May 2011 22:34:26 +0000

I actually have 2 questions, but the first is this:
無視（むし）[ignore] is listed in the dictionary as a noun/する-verb – I *almost* get how 無視する[to ignore] can be a verb, but how can the noun part be… a noun…? All the example sentences show 無視 attached to する so I can’t see anything that shows it in action on its own. I understand that question might need some clarification on my part :P

Secondly: I saw the sentence 「停止標識を無視しませんでしたか。」translated as “Didn’t you disregard the stop sign?” – shouldn’t it be “You didn’t disregard the stop sign? (no, I DID disregard it)”. 無視しませんでした is the past-negative form of “ignore”, so it makes more sense to me to translate the sentence as the latter – “didn’t you…?” implies the speaker is looking for confirmation that the driver DID disregard, like they are pointing out the mistake, which is the exact opposite of what I read the sentence as. Is this just a mistake, or can ～ませんでした be taken both ways (giggidy), maybe distinguished by the tone of voice?

Q: Didn’t you disregard the stop sign? A: Yeah, I disregarded it – stop signs are for chumps.
Q: Was it the case that you didn’t disregard the stop sign? A: No, I DID disregard it – did you not see me zoom past?

Danke :)

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SinisterT — Tue, 07 Jun 2011 17:00:17 +0000

I’m drawing a blank man.

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MisterM2402 [Michael] — Tue, 07 Jun 2011 21:15:08 +0000

Thanks for bumping the thread; I’d actually forgotten that I’d even asked this XD

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Narcoleptic LTD — Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:11:17 +0000

as a noun (in english) “I put you on ignore because I’m sick of seeing your crap all the time”

maybe that will jog you a bit =) (nothing personal in the example)

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Narcoleptic LTD — Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:12:00 +0000

“When the bill collectors call, I just hit ‘ignore’”

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SinisterT — Wed, 08 Jun 2011 00:13:50 +0000

Anytime man! I just didn’t want you to think nobody cares! Hwahahaa!

@Narcoleptic
Very insightful!

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MisterM2402 [Michael] — Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:10:46 +0000

@Narcoleptic LTD: I’m not sure if you’re being serious :P Any computer terminology would most likely be in katakana or at least be listed in the dictionary as being so.

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Narcoleptic LTD — Wed, 08 Jun 2011 04:30:40 +0000

I’m being serious in the usage, but maybe my perspective is possibly a little weird. I don’t see it so much as a ‘button’ or ‘computer’ term, but more of a concept (especially in the social netorking example first posted, as that would be a status or category you would put someone into).

My brain definitely doesn’t polarize with the rest of humanity though =)