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  • November 28, 2011 at 8:55 am #21380

    SniperReady
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    I listen to the audio provided in the ichi lesson and findout the kun yomi of ichi is a bit complicated

    I heard it not hi-to-ri but shh-to-ri, ですか?

    November 28, 2011 at 9:01 am #21381

    Luke
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    Maybe just the accent? I’ve heard it as ひとり everywhere myself.

    November 28, 2011 at 9:46 am #21383

    マーク・ウェーバー
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    The pronunciation is as Yggbert suggested :)
    Must be a bug or something – there are one with the pronunciation にせい as well, where it is used for both 二世　一世, and obviously it is only 二世 which has this pronunciation ^^
    Just report it and get the bounty.

    November 28, 2011 at 3:28 pm #21417

    Joel
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    The tongue position when pronouncing ひ does make a bit of a hiss sound, which is exacerbated slightly by the fact that it’s being recorded on a microphone rather than being listened to in real life, but it’s definitely ひとり that’s being said.

    November 28, 2011 at 7:33 pm #21422

    SniperReady
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    Thanks for the replies.
    Yeah its sound like some ‘hiss’ sound are being made in the record,
    Where do does people pronounce the sound ひ？
    I pronouced it directly from my throat so that are’nt gonna to be any ‘hiss’
    But if I try to pronounce it by let the air went through my fore-teeth their’ll be a hiss sound (and that makes more liker to the audio provided in the lesson).
    So its definitely “hi” with pure h and no hiss?

    Sorry for a dump question. :(

    November 28, 2011 at 7:43 pm #21423

    Luke
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    It sounds like a bit of a hiss if you exhale while saying ひ really fast, I think that is what you are hearing, but really it is pronounced a straight ひ, matters of the lungs be damned.

    November 29, 2011 at 2:08 am #21436

    MisterM2402 [Michael]
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    Most Japanese I’ve heard pronounce it with a “hiss”, or however you wanna call it. It’s like pronouncing “hu” as “fu”, where the “fu” is just the “hu” with a “hiss”. It’s obviously more complicated than just saying it’s a “hiss”, but if you listen to more Japanese, you’ll get a feel for it :)

    November 29, 2011 at 4:28 am #21440

    SniperReady
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    Thanks everyone! Especially MisterM2402 for a very clear explaination! :)

    I hope I mastered that half h/f sound soon! XD

    November 29, 2011 at 7:40 pm #21619

    MisterM2402 [Michael]
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    Just in case, I didn’t mean to pronounce the ‘h’ in “hitori” as an ‘f’ sound; I just meant that it’s a similar situation. It sounds almost like a valve releasing steam :P Or a reverse cymbal, since it “stops” “hissing” as you start to pronounce the ‘t’ sounds haha

    November 29, 2011 at 8:11 pm #21620

    Luke
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    Don’t worry too much! It really does depend person to person, if you don’t make the ‘hiss’ sound then it’s not going to make you seem weird or incomprehensible, talking about ひ not ふ of course!

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