Home Forums Mini-Lessons 08-23-2011 – Good Life #6 [ANSWERED]

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  • #16098

    koichi
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    Getting a little harder as the week goes on, as it should be.

    不束な息子ですけどどうぞよろしく。

    Questions:

    1. What is 不束?

    2. What is 不束な息子?

    3. What is 不束な息子ですけど?

    4. What does どうぞよろしく mean (it’s difficult to define, so just do your best)? Examples of when it’s used?

    5. What does the whole sentence mean?

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    #16104

    missingno15
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    Is this Shin-chan?

    And that sentence is perfectly finえ? No mistakes whatsoever?

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    #16106

    KiaiFighter
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    I’ve found a slight discrepancy in what you wrote

    不束な息子ですけがどうぞよろしく。

    3. What is 不束な息子ですけど?

    I can imagine ですが、
    or ですけど, but i’m a little thrown off by
    ですけが…

    #16108

    6. “Although you’re a stupid d***, pleased to meet you.”

    (While 息子 probably means “son”, it also means… something else, and that “something else” actually kinda fits in here hehe)

    @Kiai + @missing: It looks like it should be ですけど, just since the two clauses are kinda opposed.

    #16111

    missingno15
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    #16114

    David
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    I had to look both kanji words up with rikaikun this time…

    1. Rikaikun gave me a bunch of definitions; I’m going to go with “incompotent” for now.
    2. Rikaikun had a couple options here too; I’ll say “Idiot son” for now.
    3. Idiot son, but… (Note: the text here does not match the original line!)
    4. It’s a common greeting for a first meeting, or joining a group of people (school, work). The literal translations I’ve seen, like “I’ll be in your care”, I don’t really like. I’d translate it as a greeting appropriate to the context.
    5. Assuming this is a continuation from the previous line, this line is directed to “Papa’s” “Idiot Son” (i.e. the speaker’s older brother):

    So, “You’re his idiot son, but nice to meet you too.”

    #16134

    koichi
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    aw craps, I messed up. Should be an extra ど in the ですけどどうぞよろしく part :/

    Fixed now, sorry about that!

    #16138

    KiaiFighter
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    ああ、そうと思った。

    #16139

    1. 不束 = Incompetent/Stupid

    2. 不束 = Incompetent/Stupid
    不束な = Shows ‘na’ adjective applied to 息子
    息子 = Son
    不束な息子 = Incompetent/Stupid son

    3. 不束な息子 = Incompetent/Stupid son
    です = declaritive type particley thingamabob (‘to be’ but not quite)
    けど? But or However
    不束な息子ですけど = (subject is) incompetent/stupid son however…

    4. どうぞよろしく = First time greeting, I was first taught it as being along the lines of ‘please treat me well’ but potentially ‘good to meet you’

    5. What does the whole sentence mean?
    Something along the lines of…
    Your (so and so’s) stupid son, however i’m pleased to meet you.
    …possibly. probably not.

    #16140

    I think it more of a “Even though I am a rude son, treat me well.” since he just shook his father’s hand and is introducing himself.

    #16141

    Possibly. It’s hard to know without the subject or context…although I’m sure there’s something in the sentence that tells you…

    #16144

    Mark
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    1.Rude
    2.Rude Son
    3.Is rude son?
    4.Sorta please be nice to me.
    5.You have a rude son, but I’m pleased to meet you?

    #16231

    koichi
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    不束な息子ですけどどうぞよろしく。

    Questions:

    1. What is 不束?

    Incompetent

    2. What is 不束な息子?

    Incompetent son

    3. What is 不束な息子ですけど?

    I am an incompetent son but… / I may be an incompetent son but…

    4. What does どうぞよろしく mean (it’s difficult to define, so just do your best)? Examples of when it’s used?

    Please look out for me / Please take care of me / Something along those lines depending on how you end up defining it.

    5. What does the whole sentence mean?

    “I may be an incompetent son but please take care of me / please watch out for me”

    #49800

    trunklayer
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    Ok, so first answers – then check.
    1. As far as I know, it means “insufficient”.
    2. Well, “insufficient child” doesn’t sound right… I’d translate it as “Not good enough child”
    3. I’d translate it as “Although I’m not a good enough child for you”
    4. As far, as I know, it means roughly the same thing as 「よろしくお願いします」 which I would translate as “nice to meet you”.
    It’s used during introductions. For example: 「はじめまして。トランクレーヤーです。どうぞよろしく」。
    5. I’d translated the whole sentence as “I’m not a good enough child for you, but nice to meet you”.
    [update]
    1. Well, I’d say 50/50. As I’ve said in the answer to the second question, I used this word in a very broad sense.
    2. Well, not exactly, but close. By child I meant the son.
    3. Hm… I’ve seen どうぞよろしく being used in the same situations as よろしくお願いします、and their broad meanings seem close enouth to how I translated it. The introduction starts with 「はじめまして」 and ends with either of these two. If we don’t take the meaning literally – then I’d say my translation is not that far off. I’d say, 50/50.
    4. Just like with previous question, I’d say 50/50.

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