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    Revenant
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    Hi, before finding TextFugu I’ve been learning the Kanji with Remembering the Kanji from James W. Heisig, who works in a similar fashion to teach the meaning and writing (not the on-yomi) of some 3007 Kanji.

    I recently hit ~1500 Kanji with RTK and am wondering if I should even consider making use of TextFugu’s Kanji-Section now. It sure is logical, effective and entertaining. It also teaches the on-yomi and some Kanji-vocab, whereas RTK only gives a (sometimes vague) meaning and well.. mnemonics with “primitives” (very similar to radicals, but more.. loose in interpretation) in order to write the Kanji by hand (I have like a whole Block of A4-Sites written full of Kanji in every space available by now).

    Some radicals are exactly the same to Heisig’s “primitives”, while others are different (“Really sweet water slide” versus “road”). I find the water slide mentioned to be more logical and easier to work with, IF I were a beginner. But I already spent a lot of time and effort learning by a different method, althought adjusting to TextFugu is a breeze. It’s really easy to learn the Kanji here, because I can recognize all the forms and already write them.

    The idea with going with RTK was to learn to write all the Joyo-Kanji (+/- meaning) and then learn their readings in context using sentences (AJATT).

    TextFugu’s approach is way more rewarding and interersting tho… what should I do?

    #14263

    missingno15
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    Revenant: I find the water slide mentioned to be more logical and easier to work with, IF I were a beginner. But I already spent a lot of time and effort learning by a different method….

    DID SOMEONE SAY BEGINNER????????
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWlefJ-DGZU

    And no not really, it seems you already know more than the required amount of kanji. RTK is more like learning to write kanji so you’re not illiterate in one section of a langauge – which is writing. If you’re doing AJATT, then you don’t really need to do Textfugu because what I found is that you will pick up on the kunyomi and onyomi readings. For months, I was all anti RTK until it bothered me that I can’t write in Japanese. Meaning that I can write it if I look at the kanji but I couldn’t write like I was writing in English (which is my goal now as I’m doing RTK). That and I haven’t used the Textfugu kanji section since Textfugu was created so I think you’ll be fine.

    If you done RTK, and can write like you can write english, then that’s like half your learning journey right there lol

    #14264

    Revenant
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    Nice, I’ll just finish up the rest of RTK I and keep up with my reviews then. Easy, as I won a few hours every day due to cutting sleep and feeling more energetic. Thanks TextFugu.

    I’m doing like a fusion of almost everything related to learning Japanese out there. Something is bound to stick.

    #14279

    I finished RTK 1 and am using TextFugu for some readings. Yeah, readings aren’t always that important and you *can* just kinda pick them up, but I feel that doing the TextFugu kanji section just makes some vocab-learning that little bit easier. Obviously, if you choose to work through TF kanji, don’t bother with radicals or the writing bit – kinda the point of RTK, no? :P

    Btw, if you aren’t using the 6th edition of RTK, you may wanna check out the supplementary kanji document (about 150 more kanji were added to the Jouyou in December, so he wrote entries for them [some are already in RTK 1 + 3]). Also, it’s free (whether you bought OR just “acquired” it) :)

    #14288

    Revenant
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    Thanks for the hint on that supplementary part. The associated website http://kanji.koohii.com/ informed me about this and well, I can freely add Kanji all up to the 3007 count (including RTK 1, 3 + supplement).

    I find TF’s Kanji section to be amusing and with useful vocab and stuff about the Kanji, so I’ll definitely enjoy that one as well.

    #14289

    The supplement actually takes it up to 3020 ;) Although, one of those cards on koohii is the old form of “cage”, which doesn’t actually appear as a *separate* frame in the supplement (some of the new kanji have simplified forms but Heisig shows you the old ones just for reference). The people on koohii must have just added that one to make it a nice round number hehe

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