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    missingno15
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    Hey guys. So I’m kinda feeling up to some sort of contest against other people, namely you Textfugu’ers. Like the title of the topic, it’s a race to see who can translate a certain body of text first.

    Here’s how it goes. Since there are Textfugu’ers all over the word, I’ll wait 2 days before I start attempting to translate certain body of text. While I have a handicap slow start, if you do want to participate, you can jump right into the reading and translating. The body of text will be posted later below. Anyone can participate.

    Rules:
    - Use of all kinds of Japanese reference materials are accepted, even Google translate is good
    - The translation must be in comprehensible English. In other words, Google translate can’t do all the work for you.
    - The translations should look proper. So for example, it can be, but not necessarily need to look like this: http://style.i-dol.org/forums/index.php?topic=121.0
    - Deadline is 7/20/11. You can submit it on that date but any minute after that (US EST), and your entry will not be accepted.
    - Unless absolutely necessary, NO ROMAJI AT ALL
    - Beat all the other competitors
    - Repeat

    ・So Missing, how do we know who wins?

    Whoever submits it firsts. But then it must be agreed by the majority of the readers that it is good. Maybe, I’ll ask for Koichi’s help. Or even Gakuranman now that he’s seems to just be chilling around here. Understand that when you make translations, you have to have the mindset of a translator. You must effectively be able to not only put words from one language to another, but to also choose the right words to create a similar mood and atmosphere. Once you submit it, there’s is no turning back and it becomes something that EVERYONE will read.

    ・Now Missing, why would I even think to participate in such a difficult contest such as this?

    Well for starters, if you participate, you can’t lose anything. It’s only a win-win situation. So let’s say you do lose or you don’t finish but you at least finish half. Think about all the time you spent actively learning and figuring out certain grammar, words, expressions. But if you do win, you don’t get nothing. That’s right, nothing…..but pure fcking glory. So this contest is kinda like Tadoku; instead of reading until your eyes bleed for an entire month, you’ll be translating and picking up some new things on the way. It will be nice learning experience.

    ・This contest is not worth my time.

    Word. Come back for the next one then. Either way, all participants entering are beginners regardless of the level they really think they are.

    Any questions, comments, concerns, post them here and we’ll work it out.

    ということで、支配された鎖は引きちぎろう!

    文章を紹介したいと思います! どうぞ!

    ふいに

    歌:板野友美
    作詞:秋元康
    作曲:渡辺泰司

    ふいに あなたが私の左手繋いで(繋いで)
    通りを渡ってくれた時
    なぜだろう?何かドキドキしたよ
    はっとするようなぬくもり 指先感じて(感じて)
    思わず ぎゅっと握り返して
    他の人とは違うそのときめき
    あなたが好きだと今になって気づく

    いくつかの恋をして来たし
    いろんな経験して来た
    手を繋ぐ そんなことくらいじゃ
    子どもじみてもの足りなかったのに…

    点滅してるのは 信号だけじゃない
    走ったせいで息を弾ませて隣を見る
    あなたはいつもと何も変わらずに
    少し先を歩く その気持ちわからなくなるよ

    ふいに 心のどこかにビリビリ伝わった(伝わった)
    愛しさ 錯覚だったの?って
    聞いてみたって きょとんとするんでしょうね?
    だって 無意識のうちに右手を伸ばして(伸ばして)
    私のハート掴んだんでしょ?
    あなたはきっと 思い出してくれない
    小さな出来事 一瞬だけの奇跡

    やさしさは木漏れ日のように
    後から日向と気づくもの
    偶然に木々がざわめいて
    その暖かさにしあわせになる

    ねえでも もし風が止んでしまったら
    日陰に一人 取り残されるし不安でしょう?
    あなたの背中 そばで見ていると
    なぜかさっきよりも 歩き方 早く見えるよ

    ふいに あなたが私の左手繋いで(繋いで)
    通りを渡ってくれた時
    なぜだろう?何かドキドキしたよ
    はっとするようなぬくもり 指先感じて(感じて)
    思わず ぎゅっと握り返して
    他の人とは違うそのときめき
    あなたが好きだと 今になって気づく
    横断歩道 手を繋いでくれたこと
    あなたのぬくもり 今も感じながら…

    いつだって ふいに好きになる

    Ah~

    Source: http://j-lyric.net/artist/a054da7/l025933.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fOY8u_5Fkw

    Participants, have fun♡

    #14232

    jkl
    Member

    I am stuck on the second verse. I look forward to seeing what you do with it.

    #14240

    missingno15
    Member
    #14340

    jkl
    Member

    I was only able to finish the first verse.

    ***

    ふいに あなたが私の左手繋いで

    Suddenly you took my left hand

    通りを渡ってくれた時

    when you crossed the street to see me

    なぜだろう?何かドキドキしたよ

    why did you do it? It made my heart race

    はっとするようなぬくもり 指先感じて

    I felt a sudden warmth in my fingertips

    思わず ぎゅっと握り返して

    and squeezed your hand without a second thought

    他の人とは違うそのときめき

    my heart beat for no one but you

    あなたが好きだと今になって気づく

    and I knew right away that you love me.

    #14341

    missingno15
    Member

    間に合うのか!?間に合うのか!?間に合うのか!?
    間に合うのか!?間に合うのか!?間に合うのか!?
    間に合うのか!?間に合うのか!?間に合うのか!?
    間に合うのか!?間に合うのか!?間に合うのか!?
    間に合うのか!?間に合うのか!?間に合うのか!?
    間に合うのか!?間に合うのか!?間に合うのか!?
    間に合うのか!?間に合うのか!?間に合うのか!?
    間に合うのか!?間に合うのか!?間に合うのか!?
    間に合うのか!?間に合うのか!?間に合うのか!?

    間に合った!

    ふいに あなたが私の左手繋いで(繋いで)
    Suddenly you held onto my left hand
    通りを渡ってくれた時
    When you crossed the street
    なぜだろう?何かドキドキしたよ
    I wondered “Why?”, my heard kinda started beating
    はっとするようなぬくもり 指先感じて(感じて)
    I’m surpised by the warmth I feel on your fingertips
    思わず ぎゅっと握り返して
    And I reflexively hold your hand in return
    他の人とは違うそのときめき
    This feeling is different from other people I’m with
    あなたが好きだと今になって気づく
    I beginning to notice that I like you

    いくつかの恋をして来たし
    Sometimes as I start to fall in love
    いろんな経験して来た
    I began to experience many things
    手を繋ぐ そんなことくらいじゃ
    Holding hands is childish
    子どもじみてもの足りなかったのに…
    And just wasn’t not enough…

    点滅してるのは 信号だけじゃない
    It’s not just the traffic lights that are flashing
    走ったせいで息を弾ませて隣を見る
    Because I ran, I’m out of breath
    And I look next to me
    あなたはいつもと何も変わらずに
    As always, without changing at all
    少し先を歩く その気持ちわからなくなるよ
    You walk a little ahead of me
    That feeling I can’t begin to understand

    ふいに 心のどこかにビリビリ伝わった(伝わった)
    Suddenly, shocks were sent to my heart
    愛しさ 錯覚だったの?って
    If I asked “Was love just an illusion?”
    聞いてみたって きょとんとするんでしょうね?
    You’d probably look in confusion wouldn’t you?
    だって 無意識のうちに右手を伸ばして(伸ばして)
    ‘Cause you unconciously reached out your right hand (reached out your hand)
    私のハート掴んだんでしょ?
    You’ve certainly captured my heart haven’t you?
    あなたはきっと 思い出してくれない
    You’ll surely remember for me
    小さな出来事 一瞬だけの奇跡
    This small act, a fleeting miracle

    やさしさは木漏れ日のように
    Gentleness, like the sunlight through the trees,
    後から日向と気づくもの
    afterwards is a noticeable bright thing
    偶然に木々がざわめいて
    Unexpectedly, all the trees were swaying
    その暖かさにしあわせになる
    Which warmly made me happy

    ねえでも もし風が止んでしまったら
    Hey but, if the wind were to stop
    日陰に一人 取り残されるし不安でしょう?
    I’d be left alone in the shadows
    I’m so insecure
    あなたの背中 そばで見ていると
    When I’m close to you looking at your back
    なぜかさっきよりも 歩き方 早く見えるよ
    Why is that I seem to walk faster than before

    ふいに あなたが私の左手繋いで(繋いで)
    Suddenly you held onto my left hand (held my hand)
    通りを渡ってくれた時
    When you crossed the street
    なぜだろう?何かドキドキしたよ
    I wondered “Why?”, my heard kinda started beating
    はっとするようなぬくもり 指先感じて(感じて)
    I’m surpised by the warmth I feel on your fingertips
    思わず ぎゅっと握り返して
    And I reflexively hold your hand in return
    他の人とは違うそのときめき
    This feeling is different from other people I’m with
    あなたが好きだと今になって気づく
    I beginning to notice that I like you

    横断歩道 手を繋いでくれたこと
    You held my hand at the pedestrian crossing
    あなたのぬくもり 今も感じながら…
    Even now as I feel your warmth…

    いつだって ふいに好きになる
    I always suddenly fall for you

    Ah~
    Ah~

    • This reply was modified 12 years, 9 months ago by  missingno15.
    • This reply was modified 12 years, 9 months ago by  missingno15.
    #14385

    jkl
    Member

    > あなたが好きだと今になって気づく
    > I beginning to notice that I like you

    That looks better than what I did. What is liked goes with が. I knew this, and yet somehow I didn’t. Also, I think “beginning to” fits 今になって better than “right away.”

    >いくつかの恋をして来たし
    >Sometimes as I start to fall in love

    What is 来たし?

    >手を繋ぐ そんなことくらいじゃ
    >Holding hands is childish

    What is くらいじゃ?

    #14392

    This was pretty much just a thread for missing to show off his uber-l33t skillz – he’s better than 95% of us and he knows it. And he knows we know it.

    And I don’t think “Ah~” needed translated.

    Just sayin’.

    #14394

    missingno15
    Member

    That’s too bad, this was actually to make people take the opportunity enrich themselves like I do with some of the other things I put up but I guess no matter what I do, I will end up as some sort of ash-hole. But whatever I guess.

    jkl said: >手を繋ぐ そんなことくらいじゃ
    >Holding hands is childish

    What is くらいじゃ?

    This part I had to ask help for. You can find that question here: http://lang-8.com/123987/journals/1019491

    To be honest, I’m still not sure myself because I’m not sure I fully understood the answers that were given to me

    jkl said:
    いくつかの恋をして来たし
    Sometimes as I start to fall in love

    What is 来たし?

    What I thought was being used here is the grammar points: ~てくる +

    • This reply was modified 12 years, 9 months ago by  missingno15.
    #14403

    jkl
    Member

    Regarding くらいじゃ:

    To make matters somewhat more confusing, it looks like Hide wrote it ぐらい. I can’t tell from the recording whether it sounds more like くらい or ぐらい. I had to find another version of the video to listen to that part.

    http://vimeo.com/25846618

    But in any case Paris seems to be saying that the “childish” part is just sort of thrown in there, and isn’t part of the core sentence grammatically. If that is true, this seems like a relevant example of similar usage:

    それくらいでは駄目だ
    That will hardly do.

    http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/leaf/je2/20289/m0u/%E3%81%8F%E3%82%89%E3%81%84/

    Incidentally, that entry indicates that ぐらい is an alternate version, which I guess explains what Hide was doing.

    Taking out the “childish” part, and substituting では for じゃ, those lines read

    手を繋ぐそんなことくらいでは足りなかった

    Then following the example above we get something like “holding hands is hardly satisfying” or “holding hands is hardly enough.”

    Regarding 来たし:

    It looks like you have the right thing grammatically, but Tae Kim’s examples of てくる are hard to apply here. The closest one is probably

    色々な人と付き合ってきたけど
    Went out (up to the present) with various types of people

    Which makes いくつかの恋をして来た literally something like “done (up to the present) several loves.”

    Putting everything together:

    いくつかの恋をして来たし
    Because I have loved many times
    いろんな経験して来た
    and experienced many things
    手を繋ぐ そんなことくらいじゃ
    holding hands is childish
    子どもじみてもの足りなかったのに…
    and is hardly enough.

    I’m getting “because” from the し on the first line, according to the usage you referenced, and I’m getting “many/several” from いくつかの. That one wasn’t on goo.ne, so I had to go to alc for it.

    http://eow.alc.co.jp/%E3%81%84%E3%81%8F%E3%81%A4%E3%81%8B%E3%81%AE/UTF-8/

    #14408

    missingno15
    Member

    That….is actually some pretty sound reasoning lol, Good job. Hmmm, take a look at the rest of the stuff. What do you think?

    By the way, くらい and ぐらい have the exact same meaning – its just that ぐらい is more colloquial. Not to say that you can’t say くらい in regular speech but maybe its a bit more stiff.

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