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    Hey guys, today I got a correction in Lang-8 which I would like to understand. My sentence was:

    トムさんには毎日飛行機でアメリカへ行きはつまらなすぎる。

    And the correction was:

    トムさんにとって毎日飛行機でアメリカへ行くことはつまらなすぎる。

    Now, I understand 行き was just a mistake and had to be 行く tho I had to guess that one, wasnt sure but well. My main thing with this is the add of こと there, what i truly dont get why is needed, is it like that こと transforms the “go to America” part in more like a noun so applyin は is more correct or something like that? Seems thats the kinda role of it, like to transform the whole previous verb + objects in one whole noun. The other part とって instead of には I just dont understand it because I havent seen とって yet on textfugu. I guess its just more correct. Any opinions are welcome

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    thisiskyle
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    You are right about the こと at the end of a verb. It turns the verb into a gerund, similar to the -ing in English.
    “Running is hard” — ‘Running’ in this sentence is a gerund (a noun-ified verb)
    はしる こと は むずかしい

    What is the sentence “It’s boring for Tom to fly to America everyday” about? What’s the subject? In English, it’s a little tricky to say…technically the subject is ‘it’, but what is ‘it’ referring to? It’s referring to the act of flying to America everyday! So we can rewrite the sentence this way: “Flying to america everyday is boring for Tom.” So if we break that sentence into chunks, we can translate the chucks and then arrange them into a Japanese sentence order.
    [Flying to America everyday] [is] [boring] [for Tom]
    [毎日アメリカへ行くこと] [は] [つまらない] [for Tom]

    The only part left untranslated above should show you that トムさんにとって has to mean “for Tom”.

    A にとって B は Cです。 For A, B is C.

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    Awesome, happy to see my conclusions were right, I like it when i can start getting my own conclusions on what means or doesnt mean in a new language… means I’m getting the logic of it unconsciously and my answers start being “well I think its like that because it just sounds good to me” and thats the step I was waiting for =D. Awesome I’m there already. Thnx for the answer,

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