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  • July 5, 2011 at 1:15 pm #13671

    jkl
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    Does anyone understand the format of the entries on dictionary.goo.ne.jp? Here are some examples of the trouble I am having:

    First entry:

    http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/leaf/jn2/168628/m0u/%E3%81%AB%E3%82%89/

    The header line of this entry is:

    にら・む【×睨む】

    What is that little × doing in there? Is it there because that kanji isn’t one of the official ones?

    Then the first line of the entry itself is this:

    ［動マ五（四）］

    I’m guessing that is something about the grammatical type of the word, but I can’t look up what it means.

    Then come the actual definitions. Here is the first one.

    １ 目をいからしてじっと見る。鋭い目つきで見る。「じろりと―・む」

    What is the part in brackets at the end?

    Second entry:

    http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/leaf/jn2/214122/m0u/%E8%A6%8B%E3%82%8B/

    The header says:

    みる【見る／▽視る／▽観る】

    What are those triangles?

    And then there is:

    ［動マ上一］［文］［マ上一］

    What is that?

    July 5, 2011 at 7:44 pm #13712

    koichi
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    I am just as confused as you are, unfortunately :( I’ll check around to see if I can find someone who knows!

    July 5, 2011 at 9:53 pm #13718

    Michael
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    I asked about this on Google Plus:

    https://plus.google.com/u/0/101848191156408080085/posts/8WRW6e6v6zy

    Also got sent this link on Twitter:

    http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/help/jn/03_02.html
    http://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q105007965

    Basically, × shows that the kanji is not a standard use Jyouyou kanji. ▽ shows that the reading is not in the list of Jyouyou kanji.

    １ 目をいからしてじっと見る。鋭い目つきで見る。「じろりと―・む」

    This is a usage example: じろりと睨む. The ― shows where to use the kanji.

    動 means ‘verb’ (動詞)
    マ means the verb is from the ma,mi,mu,me,mo list
    五 means it is a ‘Godan’ verb (grammatical expression)
    （四） means it is ‘Yodan’ verb in old Japanese.

    Still checking about 動マ上一…

    Say thanks to the guys in the Google Plus thread. They are awesome at Japanese :)

    • This reply was modified 12 years, 10 months ago by  Michael.
    July 5, 2011 at 10:45 pm #13719

    Michael
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    Apparently 上一段 下一段 上二段 下二段 are other conjugations used in classical Japanese. Durf posted some more stuff in the Google Plus thread. Hope that helps!

    July 5, 2011 at 10:49 pm #13721

    Michael
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    Here we go, a full list: http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/help/jn/09_04.html

    July 5, 2011 at 10:59 pm #13723

    Sheepy
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    Yay for Japanese collaboration!

    July 6, 2011 at 9:40 am #13741

    jkl
    Member

    Thanks for working on this. After failing to understand the entries themselves, I lost a bit of confidence and didn’t even try looking for the Japanese help text.

    Cheers!

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