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  • #44266

    Xaromir
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    Greetings! I dropped out a while ago, but I want to come back and learn. I blame quitting on two things, one of which I like to discuss a bit. As the topic suggests: I had some issues with Anki. Simply put: Do I HAVE TO use it? Is there a practical way around it, that still lets me follow the lessons?

    Maybe I could have overcome my issues with Anki, if I wouldn’t have started terrorizing myself while my competitiveness gotten the better of me, but I ended up simply despising Anki, and myself for allowing myself to fall into (at least to me) common hurtful psychological patterns and traps, and throwing it down for about 1/2 – 3/4 of a year or so.

    Though I must say – I didn’t like Anki from the start and ended up making flashcards for the Hiragna part, which worked fine, but apparently it started to look not-feasible anymore at one point with must have pulled me back towards Anki, not sure where I got stuck exactly, I will have to do some backtracking this week.

    Ah yeah, hello! This is my first post. :)

    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.
    #44270

    Walnut
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    Anki’s not so important as much as having some kind of SRS system in place (which is really important)

    Some people have better luck using Memrise (And WaniKani for kanji although you’re paying a sub to use WK even if you’re a forever member here)

    The only thing is you’ll need to fill out your own decks if you use Memrise or write your own flash cards – Anki the work’s mostly done for you you just need to import them and study

    I think if you give it another shot and maybe slow down a little bit you’ll find yourself more motivated to finish. Remember it’s not going to happen overnight.

    #44276

    Aikibujin
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    Welcome back to TextFugu!

    Check out the following links:

    Guide for using Anki 2 with TextFugu:

    http://www.textfugu.com/bb/topic/guide-to-using-anki-2-with-textfugu/

    Track your progress and share your ideas/concerns when you finish a season (gain a level ^_^):

    http://www.textfugu.com/bb/topic/textfugu-season-completions-for-great-motivation-of-heart

    List of additional Japanese resources you may find helpful:

    http://www.textfugu.com/bb/topic/japanese-learning-resources/

    List of Common Errors in TextFugu:

    http://www.textfugu.com/bb/topic/common-errors-in-textfugu/

    In my Anki guide, I might cover some of the issues you’re having. But really you should focus more on the lessons than the vocab from Anki. If you download the browser apps that start with Rikai, they allow you to mouse over Japanese text and get instant translations. So you can keep with your lessons and just translate anything that pops up that you don’t know. Once you complete the lessons, then you can go back and focus more on vocab. When doing Anki, you must stop progressing quicker than your time allows. This is probably one of the biggest failings of TextFugu, as it doesn’t focus enough on proper pacing with Anki, and it quickly becomes overwhelming. If you have too many reviews that you are doing daily, you shouldn’t be adding more to the mix until you’ve got it at a comfortable level. That, or add all of them as you come to them, but do your reviews really quickly. So you aren’t thinking too much about them. Look at each card for 2 seconds and no more. If you know it, pass it, if you don’t, fail it. Whichever works best for you.

    がんばって!

    #44277

    Xaromir
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    That’s awfully nice of you, getting me started like that! :) I like the idea of Anki, but it seems too complicated for what’s basically a flashcard program, and I think part of that issue is the extended functionality and automation – I’m a fan of doing things manually. I also like to take small breaks from time to time, not sure how Anki deals with that, but I shall get to it very soon, and give your topic a closer look. Well, I’m not sure how relevant Wani is at this point, but I plan on giving it a shot, I hope they have a free demo. :) So far I didn’t had any issues with stopping TextFugu, and studying on my own (as with Hiragana), as long it pointed me into the right direction I felt fine on the TextFugu side of things, especially considering that it was once stated, that the goal is to get me learning by myself. But of course everyone’s different, and a very present guide is indeed very comforting.

    I wasn’t really too fast, I took about a month to get through my Hiragana (including pronunciation, Combos and Dakuten), but I basically destroyed myself over taking too much time for cementing once I started looking at the time it took others to get through it. I’m guess I could have done it in a few days too, but I didn’t, so I feel that I under-performed and kind of “lost”. I do that despite consciously picking a more relaxed learning regime, and never making speed an objective. It’s just a tick I have. Sorry for being misleading.

    Thanks, you two! :)

    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.
    #44283

    Aikibujin
    Member

    Never feel like you are going too slow. You can never go too slow unless it causes you to quit or get frustrated. In which case speed it up a bit and see how you go with it until you are comfortable.

    #44285

    JoshuaJSlone
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    Whether you learn something in a few days or a few months is less important than what you remember about it in a year. I initially learned hiragana in a couple weeks, but it took months of practice before I felt pretty comfortable going both from character to sound and sound to character while making acceptably few mistakes.

    #44287

    Xaromir
    Member

    Yeah, I need to cool it, but it’s a known trap I often fall into, but dealing with it just doesn’t get easier. I find it quite counterintuitive that kana -> sound and sound -> kana are two different processes. It makes no sense and feels wrong, but good to see that others share that experience. Loving the Back To The Future hat btw. :3

    • This reply was modified 10 years, 2 months ago by  Xaromir.
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