Home Forums Tips, Hacks, & Ideas For Learning Japanese Missing Smart.fm – But … found something SWEET out about Anki

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  • #14922

    Ryan
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    So I was screwing around with the ひらがな 

    #14923

    Ryan
    Member

    Son of a motherless goat …. arg. I hit the ‘Submit’ button by accident.

    The one thing I didn’t like about Anki compared to Smart.FM is that you didn’t have the option to type an answer. I learn by typing and can retain better when I do type. So this was a huge blow. but you can turn this feature on per deck in Anki.

    Sorry if this was covered before, but meh, its neato. I will also say be careful messing around with the deck, you can really screw something up if you aren’t careful. This walk through is true for /any/ Anki deck not just TextFugu decks.

    1. Open the deck in question
    2. Click Settings >> Deck Properties
    3. Click “blah [###] facts” and click “Edit”
    4. Select the option that has the larger number of facts (Should display ‘Forward’ and ‘Reverse’
    – In this case Hiragana has 104 facts so I select that)
    5. Click ‘Card Layout’
    6. Locate the third option from the bottom, it should be set to ‘Don’t ask me to type the answer’.
    7. Change this option to “Compare with field ‘Back’”
    8. Close all of the windows and dance

    I found it is much easier for me to be honest with myself if I have a huge red mark glaring in my face :)

    Enjoy!

    #14927

    Kaona
    Member

    Woah, that’s super sweet.

    Thanks for telling us!

    #14936

    Mars
    Member

    This is awesome.

    Honestly, I felt like I wasn’t learning as well as I could be with Anki, and this pretty much solved it.

    #14937

    I don’t think this feature would really help me cause it’s almost like it’s training me to think in roumaji (by typing it). I’m honest enough with myself, so I don’t think it would make a difference, and it would just take a lot longer too. Also, I don’t think it would work with the verbs cards I have in my main vocab deck: I have one card for “masu form” and one for “dictionary form” for each word, and sometimes I answer with the wrong form – just because I’m not 100% focussed or going too fast – but I still would have known the correct answer. That would fail me on the card when I shouldn’t really have. A better idea would be to just write out your answers instead: gets writing practice, makes you think in real Japanese (not roumaji) and allows for slight mess-ups that Anki wouldn’t forgive (like I just mentioned).

    However, I thought everyone knew about that feature… Am I the only one who messes about in the settings/preferences of most programs to find stuff like this? Must be.

    #14938

    Mars
    Member

    @MisterM

    If you’re using Koichi’s Anki decks, the answers are in hiragana, so I thought I had to type it that way. That’s what I’ve been doing and it works fine.

    I’m guessing it would work on the ones with kanji in the same way.

    #14943

    @Mars: What I meant is that you have to type roumaji on the keyboard, unless you are fancy-shmancy enough to have a real Japanese keyboard haha (goddamnit lottery, hurry up and win yourself for me so I can go and import one!). That’s the annoying thing about typing Japanese with an English keyboard, though I guess it’s not so bad if you don’t have to look at your fingers.

    Doesn’t this just look so awesome?! http://webbeat.tv/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/japanese-keyboard.jpg
    (yeah, I know most Japanese keyboards have English letters on them too, but this is a customisable OLED one that can change colour and everything :3)

    HOLY JEBUS, Amazon.co.uk are selling Japanese keyboards for just over £20 – http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000LD3AKS/ref=asc_df_B000LD3AKS3862138?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&tag=googlecouk06-21&linkCode=asn&creative=22206&creativeASIN=B000LD3AKS *0*

    #14946

    budonoseito
    Member

    Online japanese keyboard. Kanji and hiragana versions
    http://www.lexilogos.com/keyboard/japanese.php#

    #14948

    Mars
    Member

    Japanese people don’t type hiragana/katakana/kanji the way I do? That sucks. I thought I was a hot shot with my Jap IME.

    #14949

    KiaiFighter
    Member

    Another option for typing in Japanese (that is if you have it on your iPhone) is using the typical entry system used by Japanese people on their cell phones.

    If you haven’t seen it before, each number has a consonant pronunciation associated to it and you tap it the number of times to get to the proper vowel sound you are looking for.

    The layout is as such

    あ か さ
    た な は
    ま や ら
    ^ わ 。

    ^ – this is for text based emoticons
    。 – this is for punctuation
    わ – this is for わ、を、ん、ー

    so, if you want to type ko n ni chi ha
    you would
    tap か 5 times
    tap わ 3 times
    tap な 2 times
    tap た 2 times
    tap は 1 time
    and hit enter/accept

    This takes a LOT of getting used to. My old cell phone ONLY had this option for entering Japanese, I could not use romanji, However, I recently bought an iPhone and have the additional option of typing like a computer (romanji style) to type my Japanese, which has made me lazier again =(

    #14950

    KiaiFighter
    Member

    arg, no edit button? pfft

    Also, 1 note, almost EVERY Japanese person I know types Japanese by entering romanji on a Japanese/English keyboard. Of course the keyboards have the option of both, but I have never seen anyone use the direct Hiragana entry style.

    That is I mean with computers, not with cell phones. All Japanese people use the style of typing I mentioned in the post above for entering Japanese into their cell phones.

    EDIT: omg, forund Edit button just a moment too late…

    • This reply was modified 12 years, 9 months ago by  KiaiFighter.
    #14952

    Kaona
    Member

    I always knew that using a Japanese mobile phone was confusing and required quite a bit of getting used to but I wanted to know why. That clears things up KiaiFighter, thank you.

    I’m learning a lot from this thread. :D

    #14953

    Ryan
    Member

    I was really impressed with the Japanese layout for iPhone, it works really well. I recently moved to an android so not sure how that is going to work out :\’,

    #14954

    Mars
    Member

    @KiaiFighter

    Oh hell yea. I *am* a hot shot. Nice. ;)

    #15092

    If you want to make your own keyboard write like it was a Japanese keyboard, then you can expand your language toolbar -> switch to Japanese -> click the little “kana” symbol to the right.

    Now your keyboard write exactly the same way as the “real” Japanese keyboard. This is pretty hard to get used to, and I can’t really recommend it.

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