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    Marco Nioi
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    Hi guys,I am at the beggining of Season 3,where こういちさん talk about polyphasic sleeping,so how many of you guys have already give it a try? it works? let me know your impression about it,I was thinking to try it but I am a bit afraid to mess up with the regular working of my brain,mostly because I was reading people saying that the only useful sleeping phase is the REM phase & the other 2 are useless,but in a new article I read that researchers have found that in one of those 2 “useless” phases the body restore the muscular fibers & produce more white globules to fight illnesses,so this make you think about how ignorant we are before we learn more,so this why I need actual opinions about who already have try the Everyman 2nap method for a long period of time :)

    Also,what is a good clock-alarm to do this?I was looking at this one http://www.americaninnovative.com/products/neverlate-exec.php because in the description it says “These daily alarms (up to seven) sound every day at the same time, just like an ordinary “dual” alarm clock, except with the added flexibility of five additional daily alarms.”

     

    let me know what do you think about,thx :)

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    #35760

    kanjiman8
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    While it sounds appealing being able to get a few more hours out of each day, it just isn’t practical for me. I need between 6-8 hours sleep a night. Anything less and I can’t function properly.

    I’m interested too in seeing if anyone has actually done it.

    #35764

    Astralfox
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    For a few months at university I slept twice a day, but I was just being lazy XD.

    Used to use an alarm program that wakes windows up from a hibernated state, then plays an audio/video/opens any file. Think it was called “talking alarm clock”. Now my phone does that.

    #35768

    Phillip
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    I remember reading a Tofugu article on it. And watched a Tofugu video on it (methinks, but I know I read that article!). I wonder if he ever went through with it. I know he said he was gonna try. Also, the lucid dreaming stuff. Did he ever do that?

    #35771

    vanandrew
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    I think it works and is great etc, etc, but is just quite impractical. Trying to do it around an eight working day isn’t easy.

    #35772

    tubatime1010
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    I really dont think anyone here has done this. I kinda doubt that Koichi did it… I don’t really see him doing enough in a day that he needs to squeeze more time in. XD Unless it’s to do things other than work on this site.

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    #35815

    mtb812
    Member

    I unfortunately have this sleep pattern.  Not by choice, but because my job demands it.  I DO NOT recommend it.

    #35818

    kanjiman8
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    @mtb

    What is your pattern? The 20 minute naps spread out through the day or another pattern?

    #35819

    Using any polyphasic sleep schedule that constitutes more than one nap per day, still giving you somewhere around 7 hours of sleep, will make you sleep deprived. The more you do it, or the more intensely you do it, the more tired you will be throughout the day, and the less productive and creative you will be. The fact of the matter is, the non-REM sleep phases are actually very important, and if you need blaring alarm clocks to wake you up, (there are plenty of non-blaring zen alarm clocks)  there is a problem. You might think you can just “get used” to a rigorous schedule of only a few hours of sleep, but there is no getting used to it, you’ll just feel perpetually tired until you decide that it isn’t worth it.

    #35853

    Marco Nioi
    Member

    holy sh*t! is a nightmare! o_o

    Thanks for sharing this infos,you saved me from a lot of pain :P

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    #35859

    mtb812
    Member

    @kanjiman8

    I end up sleeping about 4 hours awake for 8, sleep another 4, awake again for 8.  After 4 hours I do feel wide awake, however your alert level and energy level is much shorter.  In a normal sleep pattern you are awake 16 hours, sleep 8 hours. I am awake 8 hours, sleep 4 hours, awake 8 hours.  So I am not really getting extra work hours.  Also, the time I am awake is not as useful.  To make it more clear, a normal person who sleeps for 8 hours winds down in the evening and sleeps.  Those last couple hours before going to bed are not that useful for learning or exercise because you are tired. As for me, I wind down twice a day and thus become less efficient compared to people who wind down once a day.  Power naps help a lot, but that just makes you even less efficient compared to a normal sleep cycle.  Also, there are personality changes that you may experience.  Things that are normally laugh out loud funny may barely get you to smile and things that you wouldn’t notice will annoy you and you will get progressively more forgetful.  There is some very good research about circadian rhythm disruptions and the effects on TSH and Melanin hormones.  (You can google search it) Your brain is confused about why you are not sleeping when you should so increases TSH hormone levels.  Eventually you will get symptoms of mild hypothyroidism over time.  Also, if you miss a 4 hour sleep cycle you risk micro-sleep.  That is when your body will involuntarily sleep for a second or two and you will not notice it, regardless what you are doing.  Many car crashes happen in this way because people don’t properly calculate how much sleep they have had before getting behind the wheel.

    #35884

    Mike
    Member

    These methods sound interesting :O Will have to try it once, of course.

    #36186

    I tried doing the “Siesta” version last year (as shown here http://www.dustincurtis.com/sleep.html), but I found that it took me too long to get to sleep during the day, even though I was tired. I would set my alarm for say 20-25 minutes, but it would take me the majority of that to fall asleep. Setting the alarm for much longer eats into the “extra time” you’re given.

    Why not try the 28-hour day? https://xkcd.com/320/

    #36195

    Astralfox
    Member

    @Mister: I’d probably do that without even having to try… if I didn’t have to work. Had the chance back in school, my sleeping patterns would shift by 2-4 hours a day.

     

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