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December 5, 2012 at 3:12 am in reply to: Learning via manga / beginner manga recommendations? #37398
The one I see most recommended by people online is Yotsuba and its the one I started on, however it’s like JKL says. It is simple is its lack of kanji but the style of talking is incredibly slang or a more vocal style and because it has children and adults it switchs back in and out of different styles. It basically has speech which is like “Pwease Mistah!” sounding in Japanese. Yotsuba is still a good recommendation but that is good to keep in mind.
Besides that I always recommend hunkering down on kanji anyway as in most cases it’ll help you way more in the beginner stages to know some decent amounts of basic kanji (just enough to get an impression can be good).
Also Bakuman was suggested. I’ve got the first 10 or so volumes and it’s a completely different style, MUCH more kanji use and less slangy but also some artist/manga specific vocabulary, but it’s not super advanced either.
Azumanga Daioh from the author of Yotsuba is not too bad either! In terms of its light sometimes slangy but not very kanji dense writing. As long as you keep in mind that some stuff is meant to be weird and sometimes the characters say things that don’t make sense even to the other characters lol.
What Crumb said, consistency is key or any benefit from passive listening is going to be minimal. Getting into a show works pretty well.
Also it’s worth noting I’ve found that listening to people speak probably helps my pronunciation just as much as improving my listening.
Hey guys, been busy in the US so I haven’t been that active. I can’t study all the time here but I did bring some copies of Gundam Origin which is a bit thick so should last me a bit longer. My DS with some Japanese games too. (名無しゲーム seems good)
99% is way too high. I come across kanji not in the 常用漢字 very often. For instance the pretty well known RTK has RTK3 which has you do about an additional 1000 which while not nearly as important as the standard use kanji they are commonly used and you’ll see them in day to day. However it only makes up for maybe 10-20% of kanji you’ll use so you need motivation to do all that extra kanji. As for your initial question yeah these are all the kanji you need to know that ALSO make up combinations.
Good list Joel!
小説の書き方はもっと「である」を使うことが要るよ!w 僕も勝手にカジュアルでおしゃべることが好きだ
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Hm this has actually happened to me in the past but it was so long ago that I forgot what I did. Can you sync to the client from the server side? Do what kanjiman said and check your folders to see if the actual files are still there.
Mark that’s badass! I think it might be a good idea to add a small journal entry into my rotation every day. So RTK, Core6K, Grammar, light reading and then a journal. I’m still early on in refreshing myself with anki so I don’t think it would be too much for a short entry.
Yeah generally you’ll find first courses 101/1a etc to be mostly kana based with basics. In regards to the teacher though I can totally see that, I’ve had maybe 3-4 Japanese teachers so far and almost all of them were cute or eccentric and really funny lol
Yeah i just don’t know if people know that :P
I took 102, 201 and 202 basically at my university as an elective. The classes were fine and all but the best part was that I had some natives to talk to regularly and people to practice speaking with in real life. Hard to find people for that ._.
P.s. that I’m Im really competitive. I made friends with the best students in the class and then try and crush them :D
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Jace Robinson: ter) not just from anki but from native shows and real organic sentences. I’mmm just sayying
Whats why most people use RTK as a base to go onto sentence mining or native reading material.
It’s definitely not for everyone. It’s like an extreme exercise routine that if you can pull it off will be really good for you but for a lot of people it’s just not a good method. Some people need more encouragement and a personalised pace.
The main benefit I can see vs kanji I’ve just brute forced in vocab is when I notice a kanji I can recognise it by sight but god knows if you told me to write it blindly i would never be able to. Kind of like how many natives are with rarer kanji. I definitely like how RTK breaks kanji down.
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I’m just going to be starting from scratch as anki basically told me every single one was due anyway. Plus I thought It’d be good to start over and try out Anki 2 and see how it is. Anki 2 actually has a thing that reduces the amount of reviews when you go nuts and have millions of reviews too which is nice if you need to do that just to get back into the swing of things. Anyway I’m not going to be hardcore burning through RTK as i’m doing everything else at once too and this time I’m in no rush to be honest. For now I’ve increased the new cards per day because the first 500 are incredibly easy and then I’ll probably put it down to a lower number. Maybe 20 per day.
Also, I don’t think there are many wrong choices that are worse than doing nothing at all :P
Ah makes things that are already complex a bit more. Luckily in the new Anki 2 media syncing is done by the app now without any third party service! It’s still in beta though. I’ve tried it however and all seems to go well. If you have a big media folder with images and sounds though the initial sync can take some time.
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