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    vanandrew
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    Textfugu classifies verbs as:

    Group 1 Verbs
    Group 2 Verbs
    Group 3 Verbs (Irregular Verbs)
    する Verbs (verbs that are noun+する/します)

    I take it these labels are not all used outside of TF – if that’s right, I was wondering what they get called elsewhere?

     

    #40196

    Joel
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    I can never remember which of Koichi’s groups is which, but I learnt it as う-verbs, る-verbs and irregular (which consists only of する and 来る). I’m sure you can match those to Koichi’s types well enough. Japanese for Busy People uses Regular I (= う-verbs), Regular II (= る-verbs) and Irregular, but personally I prefer group names that are actually descriptive of the verbs in the groups.

    Japanese names are 一段 (いちだん = る-verbs) and 五段 (ごだん = う-verbs). Don’t know the etymology behind that, but the way I remember it (which could be correct) is that there’s one way to form the plain past tense with 一段 verbs (stem+た), while there’s five ways to form it with 五段 (~った、~んだ、~いた、~いだ and ~した). Can’t tell if there’s an actual group name for the irregulars, but hey, there’s only two of them.

    #40197

    While most of my exposure to verbs in the beginning was through TextFugu, I never understood why he used Group 1/2/3. I’d seen the names う-verb and る-verb somewhere else and thought “That’s MUCH more helpful, why doesn’t he just call them that?” :D

    #40207

    zeldaskitten
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    yes, る and う verbs are the way to go, IMO!  much easier!

    =^..^=
    #40210

    vanandrew
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    Thanks all!

    Wow, う-verb and る-verb, revolutionary!

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